VERDICT: For those unaware beyonder is not just 1-A: He's HIGH 1-A, FAR greater than infinity itself. Originally Beyonder was a mysterious cosmic entity from outside the multiverse who was more powerful than Galactus, The Celestials, and the entire Cosmic Compass. Can Giratina save all of reality from his rage? Or will it die trying? Location: The Negative Zone Win by. He was the TOAA of his own multiverse, separate to that of the Marvel multiverse, before he came across the. 11,582. The molecule man destroys the machine and sends the enormous energies of the Beyonder into his beyond-realm forming a big bang and creating a new universe in the process - Scan 1, Scan 2, Scan 3, Scan 4 and Scan 5. These are characters that have all three omnipotent qualities. If we don't then I think he would stop at 6 since Thought Robot is plot device designed to always beat the villain and Beyonder would be the villain in this situation from the perspective of Though Robot. The Tree of Knowledge alone contains infinite multiverses and aleph infinities and The Scarlet King could effortlessly destroy it. 3 years ago. If someone can actually name a more. Minor nitpick. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. But it wont be easy by no means. 2. From incredibly superficial research, it's the whole "Shadow/Dark Reflection of God" thing that has been knocking around in DC since the old Swamp Thing days. ProfessorRespect. The Beyonder erases Death itself from the Multiverse, the Living Tribunal and his delegation politely beg the Beyonder to bring back Death to the Multiverse. But that doesn't mean Perpetua's feats are bad. Lucifer Morningstar in character could probally beat him. Pre-Retcon Beyonder (33 votes) Lucifer 61%. That's actually like a low showing for him. Follow 1187. Manhattan) and has recreated a galaxy. Humans that exist in a megaverse can't automatically destroy a universe in another fiction. Also, I should mention that they are probably re-retconning him to his previous levels soon. The 2nd Existential Seed said: Beyonder is either one of two things: Millions times stronger then Eternity, or millions times more powerful than LT + ( Even though I believe the first ) . "The Beyond" was quintillions of times more massive than the Marvel Universe. Both High 1-B Thanos: 2 Beyonder:8 Inconclusive: 1 P. Its not like the writer of marvel has dominon only over character. Post-retcon isn’t anywhere near as powerful as Classic (Pre), but he’s still pretty powerful. Beyonder is tier High 1-B for being an infinite dimensional being meaning that the Marvel Universe has infinite dimensions confirmed. (after experiencing limitation during the Doom comedy in SWI) Genius, in terms of a perfect segue to sell more comics. Pre Retcon Beyonder is far above the Living Tribunal. Tier: High 1-B | At least High 1-B | High 1-A | High 1-A. Note these are just tier names they have no real meaning here to go into a tier you have to look at all stats and feats and who you can consistently hang with----- True God. no one can tell, if he was less powerful than TOAA or equal, PR Beyonder was stated by Stan lee to be omnipotent, but the meaning of omnipotent is debatable. R1: Lucifer wins Mid-difficulty R2: Pre-recton beyonders wins high difficulty. Round 2: Franklin wins. Black winter lost to king thor with the power of galactus. He encompasses all of dimensionality, but he does not transcend it. Nothing's ever more ridiculous than claiming a guy who got extremely tired just from erasing Death from the multiverse, jobs like fucking crazy during Secret Wars II and lost a serious fight to Rachel Summers (which everyone seems to. 8 years ago. TOAA probably isn't more powerful than suggsverse characters. Presence isn't all that impressive either, but enough to. Lucifer is also technically the most intelligent being in DC besides God. Alovenus is the strongest in fiction since Alovenus>Omnipotent beings. Random encounter. Basically, I am perfectly fine with rating pre-retcon Beyonder as likely 1-A, as Oblivion had already been established at the time, but if Marvel establishes a new character that. The beyonder is accordingy to comic book guys a 5th tier cosmic. I mean even Thor was cracking those versions, so unless the writers really wanted Beyonder-tier Thor I think it's pretty obvious that they weren't at 100% in those forms. as omnipotent deities in their respective realities, the OAA Dominates the Hoi Realm. In Secret Wars 2, the Beyonder was above the real Living Tribunal (In the retcon, it was. A Beyonder easily ripping off Thor's arm. Speed Equalized Round 1: Gauntlet Scenario Round 2: John. The only known beings who are above them are Lucifer, Michael and The Presence. They live here, and decided to fuck shit up. beyonder (pre-retcon) old ones (the dark tower) the beyonders the dark tower Replies: 18; Forum: Versus Threads; the beyonders vs the Downstreamers. I don’t know anything about Anos Voldigoad, but Beyonder beats pretty much anyone so I’ll. Tier: Varies, At least 2-A | At least 1-B, Likely Higher | Likely 1-A, Far Higher | High 1-A. If he was a true omnipotent, then he wouldn't have been retconned. Pre Retcon Beyonder is non-canon Don't use that excuse unless you only want to use the inhuman/Mutant Beyonder. To start us off: What about:In fact, Pre-Retcon Beyonder had a completely different origin than being a child unit. The thing is though, "Pre-Retcon Beyonder" is the Beyonder circa Secret Wars II, 1985. Edit: Looking at the respect threads PR Beyonder actually seems a lot more impressive, and it seems my point regarding Lucifer being half the Presence was wrong. Victor knows about Beyonder's powers so if he knows that LF is powerful than Cosmic cube why doesn't he just says “ Even the powers of The 'Cosmic cube' was nothing compared to. Follow. Beyonder was affecting the entire Marvel multiverse or omniverse, or something like that, all at once. About; History; Powers; Equipment; Movies; Gallery; Battles; Comments; Edit; Power Stats; SHDb; uStats; Intelligence. My only question is: Is that Pre-Retcon. Pre-Retcon Beyonder is a nigh omnipotent high tier multiversal reality warper there is no way in hell Anti-Spiral or even Simon could win against someone on that level of power. The Beyonder is a cosmic being of immense power, often labelled as omnipotent during the issues of Secret Wars, and much stronger than all the other cosmic entities. The brothers are strongest than the living tribunal and the spectre. CsmicRanker1314 1. Discussion; Bug Reporting; Delete/Combine PagesAttack Potency: Multi-Continent level (Far superior to Spider-Man (Marvel Comics), should be comparable to his sidekick, Kratos | At least Outerverse level (Superior to Composite Spiderman, who at one point became the Beyonder (Pre-Retcon), his minion usurped Gan as the avatar of VSBW user Yobobojojo), likely far higher (Said to solo trash. . The Beyonder(Pre-Retcon)should be Tier 0. Sorted by: 9. Jan 22, 2018; Thread starter #2 bump . The original Beyonder was created for the Secret Wars (1985) miniseries. And boy, DC is supremely addicted to crises. London, UK. in classic era: Jim. than i understand from other blogs Pre-retcon Beyonder is High 1-A/ High Outerversal in beyond-realm. He also sits just below the prime meta-versal being in his respective property. PR Beyonder is probably the strongest comic character there is if you go by feats alone and not by hype. R1: Post retcon Beyonder vs Bleach verse. 2. 14. The Hand - Marked the beginning of creation. Sungsam. Location. everything else is nothing to him Galactus. Current Beyonder Tier upgrade CRT and coverup. Hence, in. Teams that give him a good enough fight to make him respect them he lets live. Reply Slaine_Troyard •. And the Ivory Kings are nowhere near Pre Retcon Beyonder's power level. Tier Sıralamasını benden iyi biliyorsan Elder Scrolls taki Dragonborn, Kratos ve Dante gibi karakterlerin tüm Mcu. Pre-Retcon Beyonder 10/10 destroy Flash. Oct 24, 2019PR Beyonder > Celestials > Phoenix Force. Beyonder trivially. Yakushimi. bigbran. Besides Pre-Retcon Beyonder, TOAA and Pre-Retcon Molecule Man, no one in Earth-616 is more powerful than LT. Multiversal. Here, let me pull a Beyonder feat out of my ass: With mere thoughts, the Beyonder subjects the entirety of Earth and all of its' inhabitants (down to the very microbes) to his rule, causing the most powerful leaders to bow to him instantly. SCP-682's adaptive powers are seriously NLF-prone. Pretty sure he can't do shit to The Presence lol & there's also Lucy & Michael there. Locked post. Definitely Beyonder. God’s best feat is him creating the concept of light with a single command, while Beyonder has crazy other things that are more impressive. @Prince CortSether said: Assuming PR Beyonder in this thread stands for Pre-retcon like it usually does. The one below all (TOBA). Forums. even though the aftermath of it still did for the mainstream universe. Apr 8, 2018. There it, the respect thread for Pre-Retcon Beyonder. Pre retcon beyonder was the closest to TOAA I think any being has come to. Rune King Thor is still under beings such as The Living Tribunal infinitely. K. but pre-Retcon Beyonder was explicitly a being outside of the Marvel totality. #44 Edited By Debunker020202. 1. Register Sign in. . Seriously at his peak height, Pre Retcon Beyonder was something that no current DC character could handle. Cosmic. Bill also got more experience than Beyonder since Bill is over 1 trillion-year-old. 8 ) ^ TIER Super Power Score and Level. Nov 5, 2017. deactivated-621c40d36c53f. 7 K. Ruphas have Higher dimensional manip. Molecule man, PR beyonder, post retcon beyonders, oblivion, one below all and many many more. Beyonders too has proven in little EXP because h e has lost his power on various occasions and despite claiming to be omniscient, but in practice had to learn everything by experience. #1. The Beyonder is a cosmic entity of immense power. Wiki Points. Manhattan is a low-medium tier matter manipulator. 1. However, the Beyonder is beyond (pun wholly, shamelessly intended) simply universe level+. At the time of the Secret Wars he was stated as being equal to the One Above All. 13 years ago@TheLegendary32 said:. Carey and JM De Matteis brought the guns, material and ammunition NEEDED to make DC the second-first tier most powerful fiction. There are other impressive feats to show, but they are all after the retcon. MM is superior to LT due to defeating the Beyonders, who one-shotted LT in a. Belligerents: Composite Time Lords from Doctor Who and the Pre-retcon Beyonder from Marvel Comics. Pre Retcon Beyonder. I have little knowledge on LT Unfourantlly other then he's a God Tier in. Pre Retcon Beyonder'in seviyesi benim gözümde Mandrakk ile aynıdır ki buna göre sadece Vertigodan bile bayağı bir karakter yazabilirim bende. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. 5: Anyone with The Infinity Gauntlet (When it could be used in Unison)You need to be logged in to post comments. Plot Manipulation user (Marvel Comics) Defenders: Beyond #1-5 Beyonder Post-Retcon: It was stated and proven that he was capable manipulating his own canonicity and is aware of his own pervious retcons. Round 10: Presence And GEB ( Respect Thread for GEB) Both are. #28 ovy7. Ah I see so when people say flash is OP what they mean is OP with respect to most commonly cited superheroes/villains. 1st Retcon - Beyonder was a cosmic cube who dreamed everything (so SW & SW II did not happen) . And form. In one of those layers of nonexistence, the one who would soon be known (in one incarnation) as SCP-343 comes into being. The Beyonder, and Molecule man, are each. Trying to apply that to the Beyonder is meaningless, he may as well embody all of them considering his origin. The Beyonder(Pre-Retcon)should be Tier 0. #1 KalKent1297. Tiering System: High 1-B | 1-A Name:' The. #20. Pre-Retcon Molecule Man is considered comparable to Pre-Retcon Beyonder, and there is a vast supply of evidence proves that Molecule Man was not in fact comparable to the. ^2 + DUR^1. Beyonder even realized he was the Pre-Retcon one too lol. Pre recton beyonder is one of the most over wanked marvel characters . Basically, either or both can be considered to be the presence, in either it's evil or good forms. Round 3 Pre-retcon Beyonder takes this and with a good level of ease. The Beyond Realm is a existence that is beyond and older than the current Marvel Omniverse, Originally a realm that was from the Original Beyonder and due to retcons is currently housed by the Omnipotential beings known as The Beyonders. Follow 1963. Manhattan. #. Scarlet King (SCP) Respect The Scarlet King (SCP Foundation)beyonder (pre-retcon) eternity galactus (marvel comics) marvel comics molecule man oblivion thanos (marvel comics) the beyonders the first firmament the living tribunal Replies: 12; Forum: Questions and AnswersPre Retcon Beyonder Stomps, the only powers that could hope to challenge him are The One Above, the Ultimate Source, The Presence, The Living Tribunal. TonyStark6999. Nope. M. More than just high1-b, only this support for low 1-a. so i think the only characters that can beat him are tier 0 characters like boundless. So it turns out that the Beyonder from Secret Wars,Secret Wars 2 is returning in the current Defenders run: Cannot connect to Twitter. both use 1B rating Both team have 10 Years of prep bloodlusted. beyonder post-retcon ii (aka beyonder-inhuman-mutant) 4. 26,333. CC Goku is outerversal while in Uni Blue, meanwhile Pre retcon Beyonder as far as i know is high outer and has way better feats, apart from being part of a much larger cosmology. 2. 0. There is nothing he can do to hurt him while Beyonder can snap his finger and destroy Flash and the universe. Beyonder is canonically a "child unit" of the BeyonderS that were the antagonists of the 2015 series- and those things wiped out the entire marvel abstract tier including LT without breaking a sweat. We can actually prove that Pre-Retcon Beyonder is fodder to Composite-DC. • Speed: The Beyonder doesn't have too many solid speed feats, Omnipresence isn't considered as a speed tier but rather a state of existence + he's only omnipresent within his realm. Tier: 1-B | 1-A. He was like the 2nd strongest guy in Marvel, only underneath the One Above All. Rick has tried to go toe to toe with one of his universe’s “gods” and it went. The old prerecton beyonder wasnt the same as the current beyonders, but he was related to them. He was the TOAA of. We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured. So BeyonderGod Beyonder > Cynical DemonbaneSearch titles only By: Search Advanced search…Beyonder by feats however after thinking about it i think EGD should win. One shieldy boi. 0. Didn't Comic God of Stories affected Pre-Retcon Beyonder? 12 days ago. R1: Pre-Retcon Beyonder Takes Low-Mid Difficulty. akuto fictionally transcends an uncountably infinite layered hierarchy of characters who are above the concepts of space & time and/or platonic forms in nature which also contains all possibilities & impossibilities, & each tier in the hierarchy fictionally transcends the one below it, making even the lowest characters in the hierarchy very high into high. Forum Posts. Pre-Retcon beyonder could be said to be the "God before genesis" he was God before TOAA existed in the comics at that time, and when TOAA came into existence as an omnipotent character they had to greatly reduce the power of the Beyonder, from there they began to know him as "Post-retcon beyonder". Round 4 same as round 3 the retcon happened for a reason. He was initially depicted as functionally omnipotent showing feats like creating planets and destroying galaxies. 3 years ago. Beyonder, Pre-Retcon or Post-Retcon with minimum effort. Again, I don’t kno Fu, but if he’s Hyperversal as ur sayin, or even higher, then he’d def beat Post-retcon. Name: Beyonder. "But only in their dreams can men be truly free. The Beyonder was once a God with limitless powers in the Marvel Omniverse. Source is responsible for high-tier multiversal beings that invoke omnipotent power to make ideas/concepts into being. Pre Retcon Beyonder said that the combined powers of all the beings in the multiverse (including entities) where just like a drop in the sea and is considered to be a million times powerful than. I really can't be asked to go. . Pre Retcon Beyonder is multiversal while Homelander is low A tier. The fight takes place in an empty galaxy. People rank Oblivion very high because of the statements made about him in Chaos War but you can apply that to any evil character with vagueish powers, like Cyttorak or whatever. Searching. beyonder (pre-retcon) eternity galactus (marvel comics) marvel comics molecule man oblivion thanos (marvel comics) the beyonders the first firmament the living tribunal Replies: 12; Forum: Questions and Answers Pre Retcon Beyonder Stomps, the only powers that could hope to challenge him are The One Above, the Ultimate Source, The Presence, The Living Tribunal. 3 years ago. perpetua slams but shinra one taps both because he’s tier -1 and transcends all. And Pre-Retcon Beyonder was being overwhelmed by The Phoenix Force. It should however be noted that sometimes having overall destructive capacity is not enough to defeat others that have "broken" or "hax" abilities. The Beyonder/s (Marvel) vs Bleach universe. Gen. The Beyonder is a cosmic entity of immense power. This will be Pre-Retcon beyonder against John egbert with his Retcon powers Speed is equalized (Not that it matters cause both these boys are in the Immesruables) The Father : The So:. and nothing comes up. ProfessorRespect. ) Pre-recton Beyonder, was the sum of everything. The Only Thing I know. ago. CCC Gilgamesh vs Pre-Retcon Beyonder. Bait? 1 year ago. Yeah,it’s been retconned . The realm is known as the Engine Room, The Wild Spaces Beyond Reality, Heaven, The Mystery, The. Has no equal or superior, Created Heaven’s (which could be a Universe) with a word and is just flat out stated to be omnipotent with. Forum Posts. Sorted by: 9. Yujiro defeated a big elephant that even 3 military cars with 5 black guys couldn't stop. 6 + (POW + (SPS*SPL))^2 + COM^1. @dami24434: cosmology expansion. 5 years ago Gojira25124-Beyonder True Omnipotent değildir sadece Hyperversal level omnipotenttir. With that said, some random guy asked Tom Brevoort on Pre-retcon Beyonder being an omnipotent, and this is what he had to say. Lucifer is definitely Pre-Retcon Beyonder tier while the Living Tribunal has become a jobber these past few years. deactivated-5b3daad020468. Rules: All tier zero characters from marvel are removed. However, since infinite force and energy is the highest degree of strength that a character can reach in terms of physics there would be no level of power above what is necessary to destroy an infinite universe, i. True Darkseid might actually have a chance though. Inbetweener. Ruphas not in baseline L1A, Ruphas can easily defeated Alovenus which is rated L1A character. . So as we know, Phoenix Force is an extremely powerful entity in Marvel. Beyonder. Living Tribunal is beyond Eternity, and Pre-Retcon Beyonder was more powerful than LT. Beyonder and its not even close. Thanos with the HOTU is more powerful than LT as well, though I can't remember any massive feats he had. Posts. BeyonderGod's Beyonder is Omnipotent. And the Beyonder and the Molecule Man are in fact, two halves of one such Cosmic Cube. ^2 + DUR^1. Type Solar vs. beyonder post retcon iii (aka beyonder of the beyonders) The Life-force is powerful than The Beyonder's power. MrStealYoSweetroll • 2 yr. During the time Pre-Retcon Beyonder was made, the writtes at the time stated that the beyonder was the manifestation and. . Although marvel uses numbers to calculate; it's as if he's Alef Null x Billion beyond infinity that already exist, which Tribunal and many others have already transcended. SirMethos. Pre-Retcon Beyonder for the win, its just that one panel's narration about being billions or was it millions of times more powerful then all the multiverse combined, thats what convinces me he is above TOAA. Scathan has decided he no longer "Approves" of the beyonders exsistance. Rune King Thor can't beat Omnipotential beings such as The Beyonders and Cosmic Cubes. Disable any adblocker and tracking prevention then try again. Hell, Featherine Augustus Aurora is more "omnipotent" than him,. Nothing beats Pre-Retcon Beyonder! Pre-Retcon Beyonder was THE Supreme Being of Marvel! The TOAA before TOAA existed! He was basically God! God Emperor Doom (The Secret Wars 2015 version) would. When ranking the strength of characters the natural thing to go by first is physics. Hi all😅 i want upgrade beyonder profile :) Basically beyonder is being of infinite dimensions when He limits himself, but as beyond realm he is. . Beyonder on the other hand, pre retcon at least, is a million times more powerful than the entire of Marvel combined. Pre-retcon Beyonder is beyond all that. g. #8 Edited By Sungsam. CsmicRanker1314 1. Beyonder displayed far superior implicated power than the. This fight takes place in a neutral space and either party wants to kill the other. SCP-682 (SCP Foundation) vs Beyonder (Pre Retcon) Fight ends only in Death. Pre-Retcon Beyonder. There has been several incarnations of the Beyonder, each a retcon of the one before. Lucifer from DC comics (new-earth). CryptoA registered-source only wiki that is built upon stolen concepts (They stole from a Russian Wiki called Anime-Fight Club which just like Vsbattles Wiki is biased against comics) and known for stealing loads of information from Outskirts Battle Dome and Google+ (from my friends) and trying to pass it as if they know the information themselves until. WF Mr. Spectre. The living embodiment of The Beyond Realm, a reality outside of the Marvel multiverse, he utilizes his powers over reality, space, and time to observe the neverending battle between good and evil, serving as both an ally and enemy to Earth’s greatest heroes. Even lower tier characters in Mythos would. 124. Pre-retcon Beyonder, ect. - Fight Scenario -. I think HOI vision, GOS loki, GOP thor all beat astral regulator Thanos (arguments can show that gop and gos neg thanos) that's only to name a few, I'm sure there's more specially since u included non cannon. He. Composite-DC/Vertigo's Infinite Hierarchy is. And this character is an entire cardinal infinite tier below. He may have to resort to starving. Transcendent. One of the most controversial fights in various sites across the web, finally arrives here. this is the Speed Tier List and how to put down the Speed on a Character Profile will be determined by these Reaction / Reflexes - the ability to distinguish between the movement of objects at a certain speed with a small distance (melee, less than 2 meters), with the possibility of taking any whatsoever countermeasures at this time, such as avoidance or. I don’t know anything about Anos Voldigoad, but Beyonder beats pretty much anyone so I’ll. 1 Answer. The only other non-Omnipotent characters in Marvel who might even rival a bloodlusted pre-Retcon Beyonder for one are. This proves by showing you that he read the writer's mind and was able to talk to him and not only that, shred the comic-book and escaping to reality in 'Defenders: Beyond (2022-23)'Poll Current Lucifer Morningstar vs. Pre Retcon Beyonder wins with ease! He is literally beyond everyone and everything (ofc not TOAA) and a multiversal threat. Or, more accurately, He wills the predominating aspect of his presence from non-being to being, from void to reality, yet still encompassing both. And he has just way more hax and reality manipulation against the mostly physical Goku to handle! 11. Wiki Points. While The Living Tribunal is rated 1-A(more than The Beyonder)and 616 Eternity or Multi-Eternity is rated High 1-B(same as The Beyonder). ago. Not an expert on Beyonder, I just have a rough idea of his tier of power. However, he can scale to characters with immeasurable speed via statements. If i had to lowkey choose one blindly, i'd go with PRB. Conditions of the battle: *Composite Time Lords will include variants of the Time Lords from the Expanded Doctor Who Universe (e. Classification: Cosmic Entity. While still a child, the older Beyonders began their grand experiment where they transformed Owen Reece into the Molecule Man. Followers. Even if you want to argue that Beyonder is stronger, it doesn't matter, since Death has already feats of claiming infinite-dimensional entities, that are even. Not Pre-Retcon Beyonder’s either. Location-The Multiverse. Per Hank Pym the events of SW2 actually DID happen and were not a "trick" by the abstract powers (which is what the retcon stated. so i think the only characters. And with this analogy, Alovenus/Ruphas can create L1A character A in fiction A, But can easily defeated By character B In fiction B. Though with infinite power he is far more concerned about his place in life after being the all and everything within his realm he tries to understand the concepts of Life, Death, and Desire all things that he want experience. This is before Beyonder's drop in status so his current status is "Above Michael and Lucifer". -Everything in bleach. Pre retcon MM scared the cosmics of the 80s even as groups, they had to just let him pass by out of fear, even beg him to fight Beyonder. About Pre-retcon/Classic Beyonder. He's been away from the Marvel Universe for a while but now he's back in all of his overpowered. Even an Taiyoku level of One is easily Outerversal level. The only thing Pre retcon beyonder has going for him against featherine is that he was described as "god" in the beyonder realm to possibly put him on her level. The first pre-retcon Beyonder dies. Beyonder and its not even close. Seriously at his peak height, Pre Retcon Beyonder was something that no current DC character could handle. Molecule Man utterly in fear admitted that Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) is on levels unimaginable to him and self-stated that he cant Match Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) in power meaning that Beyonder was infinitely more powerful than him even when he was above all the powers of the cosmic hierarchy (Including: The Living Tribunal himself). please everyone change your vote there is no way Beyonder (pre retcon) looses here the "FRA" movement here is based off a. I just want to gauge how strong marvel characters would be in relation to morningstar. M. By their logic, Twilight Sparkle solos about 90% of Marvel and DC. The following is an overview of our Tiering System. Tier= Universal+ | Creation. Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated. #5. Beyonder was everything outisde the Multi-verse. ago. 2 years ago. He'd be incredibly more versetile with his approach in the fight. Some stuff from DC like Lucifer Morningstar. 5 years ago. Dude’s absolutely broken. His Abilites consist of Powers and. Pre-Retcon Beyonder is honestly far less impressive than Molecule man, at least current molecule man. 1. PR Beyonder > Celestials > Phoenix Force. Only the Great Evil Beast is equal to The Presence. Join this channel to get access to perks:Credits to THZCheck out YFV (@YFVillainYT). Interesting. The Pre-Retcon Beyonder is literally millions of times more powerful than the Marvel creation which contains infinite multiverses upon infinite multiverses upon infinite multiverses and so on. Beyonder before the retcon was stronger than TLT. Beyonder one writer turned the Beyonder into nothing more than a street-level jobber begging his Daddy or the Lost One to give him some of his powers to create a universe full of gambling and girlfriends because he probably doesn't have the power to do it simply because the Lost One is the source of all his powers and abilities. . There is no way to square all of. Wiki Points. The same way AAO is the Supreme Being of the Marvel Multiverse. Cosmic Elvis. 66. TF Pennywise should actually be a tier below Beyonder. Community content is available under CC-BY-SA unless otherwise noted. We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured. Win by death, KO, incapBeyonder (Pre Retcon) Molecule Man(Pre Retcon) The Living Tribunal; Oblivion; Amatsu-Mikaboshi (Chaos King) Cosmic Entities. Follow 5232. Reply. The Beyonder is millions of times more powerful than the combined power in the multiverse which includes the Living Tribunal - Scan 1. But Pre-retcon Beyonder is just a cut above the rest in terms of these characters. I am allowing characters who only appeared once and characters that aren't part of the main Canon. 14 years ago. Name: The Beyonder, The One From Beyond, The One Who Is All, "Frank," Kosmos, The Maker, The Broken One. LT got rekt by beyonder Reply Ozymandias935 • Additional comment actions. Pre-Retcon beyonder could be said to be the "God before genesis" he was God before TOAA existed in the comics at that time, and when TOAA came into existence as an omnipotent character they had to greatly reduce the power of the Beyonder, from there they began to know him as "Post-retcon beyonder". laj11900 • 2 yr. The living embodiment of The Beyond Realm, a reality outside of the Marvel multiverse, he utilizes his powers over reality, space, and time to observe the neverending battle between good and evil, serving as both an ally and enemy to Earth's greatest heroes. With the tumor, Hajun has an Taiyoku level of Infinity . The Beyonders have nothing to do with Pre Retcon Beyonder. They may have gotten stronger and better feats post ret con but I. Can he beat them?Magi and Saint seiya can take down the post retcon versions but not pre retcon.